NEW QUESTIONS RAISED BY BEETHOVEN RESEARCH:
JOS VAN DER ZANDEN ABOUT FERDINAND RIES
PRESENTATION OF INFORMATION IN TABLE FORM


 



FERDINAND RIES

 

 

VON VAN DER ZANDEN'S LIST OF RIES REPORTS IN THE NOTIZEN
No. Event/Document (our Source: Beethoven Remembered) Page(s) in the Notizen (as in Beethoven Remembered) Dating by Ries (from Van der Zanden's Article) Modern Dating (from Van der Zanden's Article) Category (according to Van der Zanden)
  1 Ries' arrival in Vienna, Op. 85, Academy Concert 65-66 1800 (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden) A
  2 Op. 55, dedication to  Napoleon 66-69 1802 1803/04 A
  3 Rehearsal of Op. 55, Horn-Anecdote 69  - 1804 A
  4 Concert with Op. 16, Ramm 69-70  - 1804 A
  5 Op. 26, Funeral March, Paer 70  - 1800+ B
  6 First Performance of Op. 11, Steibelt Anecdote 70-71  - 1800 B
  7 First Performance of Op. 17, Punto 71-72  - 1800 B
  8 First Performance of Op. 47, Bridgetower 72  - 1803 B
  9 Academy Concert: Op. 65, Op. 68, Op. 80 72-73  - 1808 B
10 First Performance of Op. 1, Haydn 73-74  - 1794? B
11 Lessons by Mozart 75  - 1784 B
12 Op. 18, Nr. 4, parallel Fifths 76  - 1801+ A
13 Op. 31, Nägeli, three short letters 76-79  (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden) A
14 Count Browne, March 79-80   - 1803+ A
15 Commission for Op. 45 80-81   - 1803 A
16 Concert with Op. 23 + Op. 31, Nr. 2 81-82   - 1803 A
17 Piano Lessons, Op. 34  82-83  - 1803 A
18 Invitation by the Westphalian Court in Cassel  84-85  - 1808/9 A
19 Arrival in Vienna of Beethoven's brothers  Carl and Johann in Wien  85-86  - 1794+ A
20 Deafness, Walk with Ries, Shepherd's Flute 86-97  1802 (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)
21 Walk in Döbling  87  - 1805 A
22 Travel Plans with Ries  87-88  - 1803 A
23 Graun's Der Tod Jesu  88  - 1801+ A
24 Clementi, Dinner at the "Schwan"   88-89  - 1804 A
25 Op. 53, WoO57  89  - 1803 A
26 WoO57, Lichnowsky Anecdote 89  - 1804 A
27 Beethoven plays Leonore  89  - 1805 A
28 Chronology, Op. 18 Nr. 1 and Nr. 3  90  - 1799 B
29 Extra notes to Op. 13/ 3 und Op. 15/ 3  94  1799+ A
30 Op. 5 in Berlin, Duport, Himmel  97-98  - 1796 B
31 Louis Ferdinand in Vienna  98-99  - 1804 B
32 First contact with Archduke  Rudolph  99-100  - 1808+ B
33 Leonore, apartment at the  Theater-an-der-Wien  100  - 1803+ A
34 Quarrel with Stephan von Breuning  100  1804 1804 A
35 Renting of the apartmenat the  Pasqualati House 100  1804 1804 A
36 Ries Concert with Op. 37, Cadenza  101-102  - 1804 A
37 Stein Konzert with Op. 37, Op. 58 geplant  102-103  - 1804+ A
38 "Shaving Cream" Ankecdote   

103-104

- 1805 A
39 Letter by Beethoven, Heiligenstadt  104 1802 (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)
40 Lady in Baden, Ries playing  104-106 - 1804? A
41 About Ries, when he lived in the house of the tailor  106 1804 1804 A
42 Beethoven plays with Krumpholz  106-107 - 1795+ A
43 Op. 29, corrections in the Artaria edition  107 - (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)
44 WoO71, Horse Anecdote  107-108 - 1809 B
45 Bombarding by the French  108 1809 1809 B
46 Anecdote, according to which Beethoven threw a plate with meat and gravy at a waiter   108-109 ? +A
47 Arrival of Ries in Vienna in the year 1800  111 1800 (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)
48 Publication of Op. 52  112 - 1803 B
49 Success of Op. 2  113 - 1795+ B
50 Letter about Count Browne, Baden  114-115 probably 1801 (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)
51 Letter from Oberdöbling  115 1803 (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)
52 Letter about the Andante  115 probably 1804 1804? A
53 Letter from Baden  116 1804 1804 A
54 Letter about the quarrel with  Stephan von Breuning (1)  116-117 probably 1804 1804 A
55 Letter about the quarrel with  Stephan von Breuning (2)  118-119 1804 1804 A
56 Letter regarding Ries' departure  119-120 1805 1805 A
57 Letter regarding Beethoven's Birth Certificate  120 1809 1809 A



CORRESPONDENCE CONTAINED IN THE HENLE GESAMTAUSGABE VOLUME I BY AND CONCERNING FERDINAND RIES
DURING HIS FIRST YEARS IN VIENNA

letter No. Page Sender/Recipient IContent Date (as per the GA)
87  109 Beethoven to Ries Regarding Ries' employment by Count Browne, Ries' financial situation April 1802
96  115-116 Beethoven to Ries Regrding Op. 45, Count Browne, Heiligenstadt mentioned Summer 1802
130 157 Beethoven to Ries Probably regarding the Piano Concerto,  Op. 37 possibly March 1803
131 157-159 Beethoven to Ries Regarding the returning of parts, see Letter No.  130 possibly March1803
132 159 Beethoven to Ries Perhaps regarding Op. 85 possibly late  March/early April 1803
136 162 Ries to Simrock in Bonn Among other topics, regarding Beethoven's role as Ries' teacher, piano lessons, Op. 13 May 6, 1803
142 168 Beethoven to Ries Regarding the list of errors to  Op. 31 1+2, for Simrock before June 29,  1803
143 169 Beethoven to Ries Regarding the errors contained in the Sonatas published by Nägeli  before June 29,  1803
144 169 Beethoven to Ries See No. 143 before June 29,  1803
145 169-170 Ries to Simrock See No. 143 and No. 144, list of errors June 29, 1803
148 172-173 Beethoven to Ries Among other topices, mentioning of Oberdöbling, Matthäus Andreas Stein possibly summer1803
152 176-178 Ries to Simrock Among other topics, statement of account for several works Aug. 6,. 1803
155 180-181 Ries to Simrock Regarding Op. 31, Nr. 1+2, Simrock's edition of it,  WoO, etc. Sept. 13, 1803
162 188 Ries to Simrock Regarding Op. 88 Oct. 12,. 1803
165 190-192 Ries to Simrock Regarding Op. 47, Op. 55, Op. 31, Op. 88 Oct. 22, 1803
173 199-201 Ries to Simrock Regarding Op. 47, Op. 36, WoO78 (presumably), WoO 29, Op. 55, Op. 31, Op. 35 etc. Nov. 12, 1803
179 210-211 Beethoven to Ries Regarding Caspar Karl's behavior May-June 1804
180 211 Beethoven to Ries Regarding the delay of Ries' Concert (Op. 37) End of June/Beginning of. July 1804
182 212-213 Beethoven to Ries Regarding new living quarters, rehearsals for Op. 37 July 14, 1804
185 214-216 Beethoven to Ries Regarding the quarrel witht Stephan v. Breuning July 24, 1804
186 216-217 Beethoven to Ries Continuation of No. 185 July 24, 1804
190 222 Beethoven to Ries Regarding Op. 37 Aug./Sept. 1804
191 223 Beethoven to Ries Regarding Corrections to Op. 37 possibly Sept. 1804
192 223 Beethoven to Ries Regarding Op. 37 possibly Sept. 1804
222 256 Beethoven to Ries Regarding WoO57, Andante Favori, Op. 47 Towards the end of May, 1805
230 262-263 Simrock to Ries Regarding Caspar Karl's behavior July 30, 1805
240 269-271 Beethoven to Princess  Josephine v. Liechtenstein Letter of Recommendation for Ferdinand Ries on the occasion of his departure to the Rhineland  shortly before Nov. 13,  1805