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NEW QUESTIONS RAISED BY BEETHOVEN RESEARCH:
JOS VAN DER ZANDEN ABOUT FERDINAND RIES
PRESENTATION OF INFORMATION IN TABLE FORM

FERDINAND RIES

VON VAN DER ZANDEN'S LIST OF RIES REPORTS IN THE NOTIZEN

No. Event/Document (our Source: Beethoven Remembered) Page(s) in the Notizen (as in Beethoven Remembered) Dating by Ries (from Van der Zanden's Article) Modern Dating (from Van der Zanden's Article) Category (according to Van der Zanden)

1 Ries' arrival in Vienna, Op. 85, Academy Concert 65-66 1800 (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden) A

2 Op. 55, dedication to Napoleon 66-69 1802 1803/04 A

3 Rehearsal of Op. 55, Horn-Anecdote 69 - 1804 A

4 Concert with Op. 16, Ramm 69-70 - 1804 A

5 Op. 26, Funeral March, Paer 70 - 1800+ B

6 First Performance of Op. 11, Steibelt Anecdote 70-71 - 1800 B

7 First Performance of Op. 17, Punto 71-72 - 1800 B

8 First Performance of Op. 47, Bridgetower 72 - 1803 B

9 Academy Concert: Op. 65, Op. 68, Op. 80 72-73 - 1808 B

10 First Performance of Op. 1, Haydn 73-74 - 1794? B

11 Lessons by Mozart 75 - 1784 B

12 Op. 18, Nr. 4, parallel Fifths 76 - 1801+ A

13 Op. 31, Nägeli, three short letters 76-79 - (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden) A

14 Count Browne, March 79-80 - 1803+ A

15 Commission for Op. 45 80-81 - 1803 A

16 Concert with Op. 23 + Op. 31, Nr. 2 81-82 - 1803 A

17 Piano Lessons, Op. 34 82-83 - 1803 A

18 Invitation by the Westphalian Court in Cassel 84-85 - 1808/9 A

19 Arrival in Vienna of Beethoven's brothers Carl and Johann in Wien 85-86 - 1794+ A

20 Deafness, Walk with Ries, Shepherd's Flute 86-97 1802 (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden) A

21 Walk in Döbling 87 - 1805 A

22 Travel Plans with Ries 87-88 - 1803 A

23 Graun's Der Tod Jesu 88 - 1801+ A

24 Clementi, Dinner at the "Schwan" 88-89 - 1804 A

25 Op. 53, WoO57 89 - 1803 A

26 WoO57, Lichnowsky Anecdote 89 - 1804 A

27 Beethoven plays Leonore 89 - 1805 A

28 Chronology, Op. 18 Nr. 1 and Nr. 3 90 - 1799 B

29 Extra notes to Op. 13/ 3 und Op. 15/ 3 94 - 1799+ A

30 Op. 5 in Berlin, Duport, Himmel 97-98 - 1796 B

31 Louis Ferdinand in Vienna 98-99 - 1804 B

32 First contact with Archduke Rudolph 99-100 - 1808+ B

33 Leonore, apartment at the Theater-an-der-Wien 100 - 1803+ A

34 Quarrel with Stephan von Breuning 100 1804 1804 A

35 Renting of the apartmenat the Pasqualati House 100 1804 1804 A

36 Ries Concert with Op. 37, Cadenza 101-102 - 1804 A

37 Stein Konzert with Op. 37, Op. 58 geplant 102-103 - 1804+ A

38 "Shaving Cream" Ankecdote
103-104
- 1805 A

39 Letter by Beethoven, Heiligenstadt 104 1802 (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden) A

40 Lady in Baden, Ries playing 104-106 - 1804? A

41 About Ries, when he lived in the house of the tailor 106 1804 1804 A

42 Beethoven plays with Krumpholz 106-107 - 1795+ A

43 Op. 29, corrections in the Artaria edition 107 - (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden) A

44 WoO71, Horse Anecdote 107-108 - 1809 B

45 Bombarding by the French 108 1809 1809 B

46 Anecdote, according to which Beethoven threw a plate with meat and gravy at a waiter 108-109 - ? +A

47 Arrival of Ries in Vienna in the year 1800 111 1800 (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden) A

48 Publication of Op. 52 112 - 1803 B

49 Success of Op. 2 113 - 1795+ B

50 Letter about Count Browne, Baden 114-115 probably 1801 (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden) A

51 Letter from Oberdöbling 115 1803 (Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden) A

52 Letter about the Andante 115 probably 1804 1804? A

53 Letter from Baden 116 1804 1804 A

54 Letter about the quarrel with Stephan von Breuning (1) 116-117 probably 1804 1804 A

55 Letter about the quarrel with Stephan von Breuning (2) 118-119 1804 1804 A

56 Letter regarding Ries' departure 119-120 1805 1805 A

57 Letter regarding Beethoven's Birth Certificate 120 1809 1809 A

CORRESPONDENCE CONTAINED IN THE HENLE GESAMTAUSGABE VOLUME I BY AND CONCERNING FERDINAND RIES
DURING HIS FIRST YEARS IN VIENNA

letter No.	Page	Sender/Recipient	IContent	Date (as per the GA)
87	109	Beethoven to Ries	Regarding Ries' employment by Count Browne, Ries' financial situation	April 1802
96	115-116	Beethoven to Ries	Regrding Op. 45, Count Browne, Heiligenstadt mentioned	Summer 1802
130	157	Beethoven to Ries	Probably regarding the Piano Concerto, Op. 37	possibly March 1803
131	157-159	Beethoven to Ries	Regarding the returning of parts, see Letter No. 130	possibly March1803
132	159	Beethoven to Ries	Perhaps regarding Op. 85	possibly late March/early April 1803
136	162	Ries to Simrock in Bonn	Among other topics, regarding Beethoven's role as Ries' teacher, piano lessons, Op. 13	May 6, 1803
142	168	Beethoven to Ries	Regarding the list of errors to Op. 31 1+2, for Simrock	before June 29, 1803
143	169	Beethoven to Ries	Regarding the errors contained in the Sonatas published by Nägeli	before June 29, 1803
144	169	Beethoven to Ries	See No. 143	before June 29, 1803
145	169-170	Ries to Simrock	See No. 143 and No. 144, list of errors	June 29, 1803
148	172-173	Beethoven to Ries	Among other topices, mentioning of Oberdöbling, Matthäus Andreas Stein	possibly summer1803
152	176-178	Ries to Simrock	Among other topics, statement of account for several works	Aug. 6,. 1803
155	180-181	Ries to Simrock	Regarding Op. 31, Nr. 1+2, Simrock's edition of it, WoO, etc.	Sept. 13, 1803
162	188	Ries to Simrock	Regarding Op. 88	Oct. 12,. 1803
165	190-192	Ries to Simrock	Regarding Op. 47, Op. 55, Op. 31, Op. 88	Oct. 22, 1803
173	199-201	Ries to Simrock	Regarding Op. 47, Op. 36, WoO78 (presumably), WoO 29, Op. 55, Op. 31, Op. 35 etc.	Nov. 12, 1803
179	210-211	Beethoven to Ries	Regarding Caspar Karl's behavior	May-June 1804
180	211	Beethoven to Ries	Regarding the delay of Ries' Concert (Op. 37)	End of June/Beginning of. July 1804
182	212-213	Beethoven to Ries	Regarding new living quarters, rehearsals for Op. 37	July 14, 1804
185	214-216	Beethoven to Ries	Regarding the quarrel witht Stephan v. Breuning	July 24, 1804
186	216-217	Beethoven to Ries	Continuation of No. 185	July 24, 1804
190	222	Beethoven to Ries	Regarding Op. 37	Aug./Sept. 1804
191	223	Beethoven to Ries	Regarding Corrections to Op. 37	possibly Sept. 1804
192	223	Beethoven to Ries	Regarding Op. 37	possibly Sept. 1804
222	256	Beethoven to Ries	Regarding WoO57, Andante Favori, Op. 47	Towards the end of May, 1805
230	262-263	Simrock to Ries	Regarding Caspar Karl's behavior	July 30, 1805
240	269-271	Beethoven to Princess Josephine v. Liechtenstein	Letter of Recommendation for Ferdinand Ries on the occasion of his departure to the Rhineland	shortly before Nov. 13, 1805

No.	Event/Document (our Source: Beethoven Remembered)	Page(s) in the Notizen (as in Beethoven Remembered)	Dating by Ries (from Van der Zanden's Article)	Modern Dating (from Van der Zanden's Article)	Category (according to Van der Zanden)
1	Ries' arrival in Vienna, Op. 85, Academy Concert	65-66	1800	(Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)	A
2	Op. 55, dedication to Napoleon	66-69	1802	1803/04	A
3	Rehearsal of Op. 55, Horn-Anecdote	69	-	1804	A
4	Concert with Op. 16, Ramm	69-70	-	1804	A
5	Op. 26, Funeral March, Paer	70	-	1800+	B
6	First Performance of Op. 11, Steibelt Anecdote	70-71	-	1800	B
7	First Performance of Op. 17, Punto	71-72	-	1800	B
8	First Performance of Op. 47, Bridgetower	72	-	1803	B
9	Academy Concert: Op. 65, Op. 68, Op. 80	72-73	-	1808	B
10	First Performance of Op. 1, Haydn	73-74	-	1794?	B
11	Lessons by Mozart	75	-	1784	B
12	Op. 18, Nr. 4, parallel Fifths	76	-	1801+	A
13	Op. 31, Nägeli, three short letters	76-79	-	(Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)	A
14	Count Browne, March	79-80	-	1803+	A
15	Commission for Op. 45	80-81	-	1803	A
16	Concert with Op. 23 + Op. 31, Nr. 2	81-82	-	1803	A
17	Piano Lessons, Op. 34	82-83	-	1803	A
18	Invitation by the Westphalian Court in Cassel	84-85	-	1808/9	A
19	Arrival in Vienna of Beethoven's brothers Carl and Johann in Wien	85-86	-	1794+	A
20	Deafness, Walk with Ries, Shepherd's Flute	86-97	1802	(Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)	A
21	Walk in Döbling	87	-	1805	A
22	Travel Plans with Ries	87-88	-	1803	A
23	Graun's Der Tod Jesu	88	-	1801+	A
24	Clementi, Dinner at the "Schwan"	88-89	-	1804	A
25	Op. 53, WoO57	89	-	1803	A
26	WoO57, Lichnowsky Anecdote	89	-	1804	A
27	Beethoven plays Leonore	89	-	1805	A
28	Chronology, Op. 18 Nr. 1 and Nr. 3	90	-	1799	B
29	Extra notes to Op. 13/ 3 und Op. 15/ 3	94	-	1799+	A
30	Op. 5 in Berlin, Duport, Himmel	97-98	-	1796	B
31	Louis Ferdinand in Vienna	98-99	-	1804	B
32	First contact with Archduke Rudolph	99-100	-	1808+	B
33	Leonore, apartment at the Theater-an-der-Wien	100	-	1803+	A
34	Quarrel with Stephan von Breuning	100	1804	1804	A
35	Renting of the apartmenat the Pasqualati House	100	1804	1804	A
36	Ries Concert with Op. 37, Cadenza	101-102	-	1804	A
37	Stein Konzert with Op. 37, Op. 58 geplant	102-103	-	1804+	A
38	"Shaving Cream" Ankecdote	103-104	-	1805	A
39	Letter by Beethoven, Heiligenstadt	104	1802	(Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)	A
40	Lady in Baden, Ries playing	104-106	-	1804?	A
41	About Ries, when he lived in the house of the tailor	106	1804	1804	A
42	Beethoven plays with Krumpholz	106-107	-	1795+	A
43	Op. 29, corrections in the Artaria edition	107	-	(Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)	A
44	WoO71, Horse Anecdote	107-108	-	1809	B
45	Bombarding by the French	108	1809	1809	B
46	Anecdote, according to which Beethoven threw a plate with meat and gravy at a waiter	108-109	-	?	+A
47	Arrival of Ries in Vienna in the year 1800	111	1800	(Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)	A
48	Publication of Op. 52	112	-	1803	B
49	Success of Op. 2	113	-	1795+	B
50	Letter about Count Browne, Baden	114-115	probably 1801	(Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)	A
51	Letter from Oberdöbling	115	1803	(Under discussion, according to Van der Zanden)	A
52	Letter about the Andante	115	probably 1804	1804?	A
53	Letter from Baden	116	1804	1804	A
54	Letter about the quarrel with Stephan von Breuning (1)	116-117	probably 1804	1804	A
55	Letter about the quarrel with Stephan von Breuning (2)	118-119	1804	1804	A
56	Letter regarding Ries' departure	119-120	1805	1805	A
57	Letter regarding Beethoven's Birth Certificate	120	1809	1809	A